Subject: Bjarne Stroustrup 'interview'
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 11:53:16 +0000 (GMT)
To: brucee@chunder.com
Hi,
Your bjarne stroustrup page has escaped!
It's doing the rounds on email, and is soon to pass into folklore. Can
you confirm or deny its truth for us? I'm assuming it's false but I can't
go round telling people so, based only on my own cynicism.
Cheers,
xxxx.
Subject: stroustrup interview
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:57:26 -0500
To: brucee@chunder.com
bruce,
how true is this stroustrup interview? i have received a copy of this
[interview] thru e-mail. i searched the net for the source of the
interview and i found your site.
this bothers me A LOT as a programmer.
please respond. thanks.
xxxx
Subject: bs
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:03:55 -0500
From: Bruce Ellis <brucee@chunder.com>
I can neither confirm nor deny the validity of the claims.
We can only hope that we all learn something from it.
Bruce
Subject: interview with Bjarne
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:29:43 -0800
To: brucee@chunder.com
Can you authenticate this interview? Has Bjarne or IEEE confirmed or denied
having the interview? Anything in the news about it?
Thanks,
xxxx
Subject: Re: interview
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:12:12 -0800
To: brucee@chunder.com
I can deny it. Here's a message from Bjarne. I'm sure he would appreciate
it if you took that interview off your web page.
xxxx
> ----------
> From: brucee@chunder.com
> Subject: interview
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 7:29 PM
>
> I can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the interview.
> Let's just hope that we all learn something from it.
>
> Bruce.
Subject: very funny ...
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:55:47 -0500
From: Bruce Ellis <brucee@lchunder.com>
That was pretty funny! You say you have a denial and then
you send nothing but a copy of my message!
A virtual denial? Information hiding?
You crack me up!
Bruce
Subject: Re: very funny ...
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:19:37 -0800
To: brucee@chunder.com
Ah yes, thank you for pointing out my oversight. Here's the message I
forgot to include...
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb EST 12:44:58 -0500 (EST)
> From: bs@day.research.att.com
>
> Sorry to send you a form letter, but I have now received dozens of
> copies of that "IEEE interview" hoax. Yes, it is (obviously) a hoax.
> No, it is not a hoax done by me or any of my friends; had it been,
> it would have been less crude and more funny.
>
> If you want information about C++, see my articles and books.
> You can find references, articles, book chapters, and even a couple
> of genuine interviews on my homepages.
>
> - Bjarne
>
> Bjarne Stroustrup, AT&T Labs, http://www.research.att.com/~bs
As I said before, I'm sure Bjarne would appreciate it if you stopped
spreading this story around.
xxxx
Subject: denial
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 11:42:46 -0500
From: Bruce Ellis <brucee@chunder.com>
Nice denial. It has all the hallmarks of a wonderful parody.
The arrogant tone, the obfuscated syntactic structure - what
is that punctuation all about? No digital signature either!
I like the way this story is developing.
Bruce
Subject: That Interview
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 15:51:47 +0100
To: brucee@chunder.com
Dear Bruce,
where did you got THAT interview (and what a one !) from ?
Looking forward to your reply
Regards
xxxx
Subject: Re: That Interview
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 15:01:11 -0500
From: Bruce Ellis <brucee@chunder.com>
I'm afraid I can't reveal the source. Glad you enjoyed it and
I hope we all learn something from it!
Bruce
Subject: Re: interview
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 08:25:31 +0100
To: brucee@chunder.com
Not the source, of course. We all have enjoyed it - and know all this by
heart, and through our (DOS, Mac, Win, UNIX...) experience. The
disagreement comes in one point only - whether the interview is real or
not (your disclaimer...).
I'm pretty sure it is ...…
xxxx
Subject: gotta know...it is true?
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:23:12 -0800
From: xxxx <xxxx@Ebay.Sun.COM>
Organization: Sun Microsystems
To: brucee@chunder.com
O.K. I'm too naive! But, it is true?????
xxxx@Ebay.Sun.COM
Subject: Re: gotta know...it is true?
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:21:53 -0500
From: Bruce Ellis <brucee@chunder.com>
Is what true? I guess you refer to something at chunder.com ...
Subject: Re: Is it true ?
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:50:34 -0800 (PST)
From: xxxx <xxxx@Ebay.Sun.COM>
Organization: Sun Microsystems
To: brucee@chunder.com
Oops, I'm referring to the C++ interview with the
author, B.S. whose name, unfortunately, I am unable to
spell. The article you published was titled
"I Did It All For You"
>
> Is what true? I guess you refer to something at chunder.com ...
>
Subject: interview
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:24:00 -0500
From: Bruce Ellis <brucee@chunder.com>
I can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the interview.
Let's just hope we all learned something from it.
Bruce
Subject: Re: IEEE Interview
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:08:16 +1100
From: xxxx <xxxx@rpi.net.au>
To: bs@day.research.att.com
It's a rather funny interview - I didn't take it seriously though -
I just wanted to know if you had really said those things - which
parts do you think are malicious ?
bs@day.research.att.com wrote:
> This can't be true .....
> ===> What can't be true? The IEEE interview hoax? If so: it's a fairly
> malicious hoax.
>
> - Bjarne
Subject: Re: IEEE Interview
Date: Thu, 26 Mar EST 21:57:29 -0500 (EST)
From: bs@day.research.att.com
To: xxxx@rpi.net.au
---> putting detailed and falacious arguments against C++ into my mouth
and ascribing mercenary motives to the invention. My view is
undoubtedly biased by having recieved more than fifty pieces of
mail from people who "tended to think that the interview was genuine"
- Bjarne
It just won't die ...
Subject: tellmeitaint.html
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:47:26 +0200
From: xxx@edu.loviisa.fi
To: brucee@chunder.com
I guess it's time to discuss this page.
Never mind the Stroustrup interview. Is the discussion on this page
true or not? I have hard to believe it is.
xxx
Subject: Re: tellmeitaint.html
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:08:50 -0500
From: brucee@chunder.com
To: xxx@edu.loviisa.fi
All of the e-mails in the discussion are real.
Subject: Texto remis au destinataire
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:30:02 +0100
From: xxx@xxx.fr
To: brucee@chunder.com
Le message dont le texte est:
"Hey boofhead, don't forget to score!"
a destination de 06xxxxxxxx, envoye le 13-11-1998 a 17h06mn,
a ete recu le 13-11-1998 a 17h30mn.
Addendum:
"IEEE regret that Computer's name was linked to this fiction in an
attempt to give it credibility."
IEEE Computer April 1998, page 4.
"Ask Mr automobile where he wants to go."
John Cage.
"Don't meddle in the mouth."
Mark V. Shaney.
Debunking Cybermyths: The Stroustrup Interview
It has come to our attention that a fictitious Computer interview with
Bjarne Stroustrup is making the rounds. Readers of Computer and anyone
familiar with Stroustrup's work would immediately recognize the
interview for the hoax that it is. We regret that Computer's name was
linked to this fiction in an attempt to give it credibility. On the
bright side, this incident has reminded us to reconnect with Bjarne
Stroustrup, and we will feature a legitimate interview treating his most
recent work in the very near future.
© 1998, Bruce Ellis: brucee@chunder.com, Home.